[Standards-JIG] Re: Extending SMTP with XMPP?

Matthew Wild mwild1+jig at gmail.com
Sun Jan 22 13:01:01 UTC 2006

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From: Matthew Wild <mwild1 at gmail.com>
Date: Jan 22, 2006 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Standards-JIG] Extending SMTP with XMPP?
To: Jabber protocol discussion list <standards-jig at jabber.org>

Easy... if the recipient has a Jabber account, the client can be configured
to use XMPP wherever/whenever possible. If it doesn't have a clue what XMPP
is, it can just ignore and use the old method.

Personally I quite like this idea...
The only way new ideas ever get great success when being deployed to a large
base of users who will always choose the old known method over the new
better one, is to make the new better one so invisible, that it requires
little or no configuration.

The only current problem facing is, do we make a Jabber client that supports
SMTP, an email client that supports XMPP, or a new hybrid that we try and
get everyone to use? :-) Only the success of individual implementations will

On 1/22/06, bernhard <bz at datenkueche.com> wrote:
> Hi
> I think the best way to integrate Email is to use a IMAP-XMPP gateway.
> To send a message is not difficult. There are SMTP Gateways.
> The Structur of an email is similar to a XMPP Message.
> The problem is to receive the mails and drop spam.
> If it's possible to add email addresses to roster and authorize some
> addresses
> this can be usefull to find important messages.
> To make a soft switch from SMTP to XMPP the first step may look like
> following:
> o use existing Spam-Filter of email system
> o connect with IMAP to the mail system
> o convert IMAP to XMPP if from-address is in roster
> o read the spam in old email client
> Problemes:
> o IMAP has to be polled.
> o Spam Filter may support whitelisting of email addresses but it is not
> easy to combine this with roster
> ----
> Problem with:
> X-XMPP-Identity: binaryape at jabber.org
> If you add this header it is not clear if the reply should go to XMPP or
> Think about this:
> X-XMPP-Identity: binaryape at jabber.org
> reply-to: myemail at mail.com
> where should the answer go? To xmpp or smtp?
> Bernhard
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