[Standards-JIG] proto-JEP: Invisible Command

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Mon May 15 18:32:12 UTC 2006

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Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Dave Cridland wrote:
>>> On Fri May 12 18:21:00 2006, Zenon Kuder jr. wrote:
>>>> I agree. I think this part
>>>> While the client is in invisible mode, the server:(...) 5. MUST NOT
>>>> deliver any inbound <message/> stanzas whose 'to' address is bare JID
>>>> of the user.
>>>> is not as what people expect...
>>> But I think I see where that MUST is coming from - it's a privacy thing,
>>> I'd guess, preventing people from probing for you. (Although why it then
>>> allows <iq> stanzas is a little beyond me).
> IQ stanzas to bare JIDs are handled by the server and not delivered to
> the client.
> As to rule 5 ("MUST NOT deliver any inbound <message/> stanzas whose
> 'to' address is bare JID of the user."):
> I am not wedded to that rule. That set of rules was a first attempt at
> capturing what people mean by invisibility. I guess I didn't quite
> succeed. So by "invisibility" people mean (in part) that the user will
> continue to receive all messages sent to the bare JID (i.e., such
> messages will not be sent to offline storage but instead will be
> delivered to the client)? I suppose that makes sense.

I've changed that rule to read:

   SHOULD deliver inbound <message/> stanzas whose 'to' address
   is the bare JID of the user (subject to standard XMPP stanza
   handling rules).

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