[Standards-JIG] XEP-191

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Mon Nov 6 16:57:25 UTC 2006

Kevin Smith wrote:
> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> BTW, polite blocking is what we defined in RFC 3921, so XEP-0191 as it
>> stands is consistent with RFC 3921 and XEP-0016. 
> I know, but this is the chance to change things :)


>> IMHO we need to think
>> about it a bit more before making a change. 
> Of course, but this is an effort to start with a proposal and a
> discussion :)

Natch. :-)

>> And really this is a social
>> issue (leave it up to service-level policy or individual choice) than a
>> technology issue per se.
> Well, doing polite blocking is a purely social decision. Doing bounced
> blocking though is a technical decision though, since it would be nice
> for xmpp to be a reliable protocol (i.e. without blackholes) imo. I'd
> just like it that, since there is a technical reason to do bounces, and
> a social issue which is unclear which is preferable, we could discuss
> any technical reasons to do polite blocking. When we start doing
> guaranteed delivery of whatever form, Justin's XMPP changes, or
> 184-Message receipts, we're looking at causing a full set of retransmits
> if we drop stanzas silently.

Personally I don't have a problem with impolite blocking, but I'm not
necessarily a polite person. :-)


Peter Saint-Andre
Jabber Software Foundation

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