[Standards-JIG] rfc3920bis: Stanza Acknowledgements

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Mon Nov 6 23:21:05 UTC 2006


On Mon Nov  6 21:59:19 2006, Bruce Fitzsimons wrote:
> Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote:
>> IMHO, this should be configurable. I agree it is plenty of time 
>> for most
>> people. However, I would set it to some 3 minutes for myself. It 
>> happens
>> sometime I have a short (~1 minute) internet break. Now, I just 
>> get all
>> the messages after the internet starts again. This way, I would 
>> need to
>> reconnect and everyone would see I disconnected.
>> 
>>   
> Hmm. This hits the social aspect again -- you said I could see your 
> presence information. So if you do go away and come back (in the 
> network sense) then shouldn't I see this? This does accurately 
> reflect your presence as far as technology allows. I think you're 
> putting this social issue on top of a hop-by-hop reliability 
> mechanism which clouds matters so can we deal with this separately? 
> This is a legacy of having long (default) TCP timers which gave you 
> this (implicit) behaviour.
> 
> 
Assuming TCP simply recovers for him, is Michal offline, or is he 
online with a high latency?

I'd have thought the latter. Reconnection shouldn't really impact him 
functionally, since he'll be online before anyone notices, and he 
won't have lost any messages.

Dave.
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