[Standards-JIG] RE: Standards-JIG Digest, Vol 35, Issue 91

Jean-Louis Seguineau jean-louis.seguineau at laposte.net
Tue Oct 31 22:17:33 UTC 2006

You are right from a RFC 'letter' stand point, Peter. I was just referring
to the few actual applications I have come across, not saying you where
wrong in any way. The server has to really be knowledgeable about the UA's
state to "decide to queue the call rather than reject it". I have not dealt
with SIP enabled call center (which would certainly fit in the RFC excerpt
if they were widely deployed), but 182 are commonly returned by SIP phones
able to queue several calls.

The truth in SIP lies with the way the RFC is interpreted by its high
priests. Were mere mortals :)

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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:56:31 -0700
From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at jabber.org>
Subject: Re: [Standards-JIG] Jingle xeps
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Jean-Louis Seguineau wrote:
>> Ask the SIP folks, we're trying to map to their semantics. They have 180
>> (Ringing) vs. 182 (Queued). In practice I don't think we would use
>> something like 182 because that means the message is being queued at the
>> server. So I suppose we can pull that out.
> In my opinion the SIP 182 refers to cases where a UA is queuing incoming
> calls without issuing a busy indication. For the other party is only
> indicates there is a possibility for the call to be accepted...

RFC 3261 saith:


21.1.4 182 Queued

   The called party is temporarily unavailable, but the server has
   decided to queue the call rather than reject it.  When the callee
   becomes available, it will return the appropriate final status
   response.  The reason phrase MAY give further details about the
   status of the call, for example, "5 calls queued; expected waiting
   time is 15 minutes".  The server MAY issue several 182 (Queued)
   responses to update the caller about the status of the queued call.


That explicitly mentions server-side queueing, but perhaps in practice
182 is also used when the request is queued by a user agent.


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