[Standards] Re: [Standards-JIG] XEP0168 - UDP Sessions - AddUDPhandshake

Thiago Camargo thiago at jivesoftware.com
Wed Apr 18 01:51:36 UTC 2007

Hello All,

Here at Jive Software we've implemented an UDP handshake that doesn't use STUN. We are finishing the XEP Draft in the next week.
It can be used with UDP Raw and also with ICE, with excellent reliability.

Best Regards,

-----Original Message-----
From: standards-bounces at xmpp.org [mailto:standards-bounces at xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
Sent: terça-feira, 17 de abril de 2007 15:56
To: XMPP Extension Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Standards] Re: [Standards-JIG] XEP0168 - UDP Sessions - AddUDPhandshake

Justin Karneges wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 April 2007 11:08 am, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> Chris Mullins wrote:
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> An echo of some sort is exactly what I was looking for. I just want
>>> something, at the protocol level, that says, "It Works".
>> Agreed. But we want this to be lightweight. For example, it would be
>> rather heavy for the receiver to send a Jingle content-add action for
>> the content type in XEP-0208 in order to check the connectivity. :) So
>> we need a convention that developers can follow here. Sending echo data
>> over the IP address and port specified in the Raw UDP candidate seems
>> appropriate.
> STUN already has UDP check/replies for exactly this sort of thing.  It is one 
> of the many mechanisms used by ICE to ensure a usable transport.

Right. But that doesn't help us with the raw UDP transport...


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