[Standards] IMML

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Wed Aug 8 02:40:43 UTC 2007

Top-posting discouraged, comments at the bottom.

On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 12:04:25AM +0100, Alex Jones wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 14:56 -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > Alex Jones wrote:
> > 
> > > I don't see how XHTML-IM can support icon delimitation like IMML. I
> > > really don't think we are talking about a subset of XHTML-IM.
> > 
> > Emoticons are an entirely separate problem. Feel free to update XEP-0038
> > or convince others to do so:
> > 
> > http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0038.html
> >From XEP 38:
>   * The client sends the message with the text string to the intended
>     recipient.
>   * The recipient client receives the message with the text string.
> IMML complements XEP 38. The "text strings" are explicitly delimited in
> IMML "icon" elements, rather than just fumbled into the message with the
> hope that it is correctly parsed out again on the other side.

Yet XEP-0038 says:


The text strings representing the icons will be sent like any other text
(this document doesn't require extra tags or attributes in the messages
being sent).


Furthermore there are the concerns raised by pgmillard way back in 2003:

"I still have serious issues w/ -38. My primary concern is that it's
impossible to implement this JEP and still have a client be able to 
handle 50K message bodies. I'd like to see this JEP turn into something 
which just defines _STANDARD_ emtoticons for jabber, and be done with it."



Peter Saint-Andre
XMPP Standards Foundation

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