[Standards] Jingle: UDP relays

Evgeniy Khramtsov xramtsov at gmail.com
Thu Aug 9 09:54:18 UTC 2007

Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

>At the recent XMPP devcon, I talked a bit with Thiago Camargo about NAT
>traversal and media relays. There are really two separate issues here:
>1. Finding and using STUN servers for NAT traversal. This is discussed
>in XEP-0215.
New STUNbis doesn't define "STUN servers". Currently STUNbis is a low 
level protocol which you can use in other protocols such as ICE and TURN.

>However, as Rémi Denis-Courmont has pointed out [2] on the
>IETF's BEHAVE list, it is not necessary for the relay to be a TURN
>server. It's great if the relay is a TURN server, but it could be
>something else -- and the important point is that for the purposes of
>media relaying it doesn't really matter to the Jingle client whether the
>relay does TURN or something simpler.
I can't agree :) Why do we need a zoo of relay servers? What is it for?

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