[Standards] MUC rooms on roster.

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Fri Aug 10 17:52:43 UTC 2007

Joe Hildebrand wrote:
> On Aug 3, 2007, at 3:10 AM, Robin Redeker wrote:
>> Hm, and what is about http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0048.html ?
>> That would still be useful to store non-autmatically-joined MUCs I guess?
>> Also that XEP offers also a way to auto-join MUCs.
> The more we talked about this around the office, the more we thought we
> only needed two things to make this work for our use cases.
> 1) A new MUC role which effectively the opposite of visitor.  Of course,
> on the bar napkin, this got written as "rotisiv". :)  A rotisiv can
> potentially speak (broadcasting to all of the members of the room), but
> can't see any of the messages that are broadcast to the room.  As well,
> rotisivs get presence from all of the participants and moderators of the
> room, but nobody receives the rotisiv's presence from the room. 
> Obviously, an implementation might want ACLs to specify who can be a
> rotisiv for a given room.

I'm not sure why you wouldn't want visitors to receive messages, perhaps
I'm missing something. I can understand why the room admins would not
want to broadcast presence from visitors in a moderated room, but that's
why we have the muc#roomconfig_presencebroadcast option.


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