[Standards] XEP-0073: Question about service discovery

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Wed Feb 7 20:52:49 UTC 2007

Robin Redeker wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 11:03:09AM -0700, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> [.snip.]
>> I think iq:version should be deprecated for determining the identity of 
>> entities from which you receive presence (e.g., other users and some 
>> kinds of gateways). It can still be useful for determining the identity 
>> of an entity from which you do not receive presence (e.g., servers and 
>> many kinds of components).
> Sounds sane.
> [.snip.]
>>> But XEP-0030 disco#info requests are differnt from the ones in XEP-0115.
>>> See XEP-0030:
>>>   <iq type='get'
>>>    from='romeo at montague.net/orchard'
>>>    to='plays.shakespeare.lit'
>>>    id='info1'>
>>>        <query xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/disco#info'/>
>>>   </iq>
>>> But the requests in XEP-0115 are using only specific nodes, for example:
>>>   <iq type='get' to='randomuser1 at capulet.com/resource'>
>>>     <query xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/disco#info'
>>>            node='http://exodus.jabberstudio.org/caps#0.9'/>
>>>   </iq>
>>> Is the information returned by the first one as the information returned 
>>> by the
>>> second one? 
>> Yes.
>>> I guess not. 
>> Why do you guess not?
> Because I haven't yet found the place where is defined that the second
> request should/must have the same result than the first request.
> In fact I don't see any example or definition what the second request
> should return as result. I can only _guess_ that it should be the same
> result as the first query (the one without an node attribute).
> XEP-0115 does not say, or at least i can't find the place where it might
> say, that
>    <query xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/disco#info'/>
> -requests will return the same information as a
>    <query xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/disco#info'
>           node='http://exodus.jabberstudio.org/caps#0.9'/>
> -request.
> If the methods advertised by XEP-0115 should deliver the same information
> that a
> "<query xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/disco#info'/>"-request
> returns it should be noted somewhere, otherwise it won't be so obvious
> for client developers. XEP-0115 only speaks of 'features' that can be
> advertised. Where XEP-0030 also speaks of identities that are returned
> in the result.

So we'll clarify that in the next version of XEP-0115.

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