[Standards-JIG] PROPOSAL for Live Chat

JD Conley jd.conley at coversant.net
Fri Jan 5 01:35:49 UTC 2007

If that biz rule can't be changed then I vote the draft should be something that depends on 0085 so we can re-use the active and composing states.

However, it does seem logical that the "live" text is simply just an overloaded composing state.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: standards-jig-bounces at jabber.org [mailto:standards-jig-
> bounces at jabber.org] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:05 PM
> To: XMPP Extension Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Standards-JIG] PROPOSAL for Live Chat
> JD Conley wrote:
> > Yeah, the current Chat State Notifications
> > <http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0085.html> only go so far. I’ve
> > actually been wanting this for a while too. I miss it from ICQ.
> There are certain circumstances in which such a protocol is extremely
> useful, for example emergency response. You don't just want to know
> that
> the other person is composing and then stopped composing when the
> person
> was typing "he's going to kill me!"
> > I think we could do it by including the appropriate body (text or
> > xhtml-im) in the composing message of Chat State Notifications. I’m
> not
> > sure how clients today would handle this, though, so it might need
> > something more specific (like being a child of the composing
> element). I
> > would also venture to guess, to pass muster with the Council, this
> would
> > need include some way to play nice with rate limiting so servers
> don’t
> > get too upset at you.
> Except that violates business rule 5.3 from XEP-0085:
> http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0085.html#bizrules-rep
> Better, I think, for us to define a separate protocol for this. Should
> be pretty straightforward. Anyone want to write a proposal for it?
> Peter

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