[Standards] [Fwd: [lemonade] Message ORGanization list formed]

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Wed May 2 09:08:08 UTC 2007

On Tue May  1 19:10:31 2007, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> This may be of interest...

Given the lists I sent this to (whose members were involved in the 
discussions leading to this) I was relying on quite a bit of context 
in this announcement - that context is probably not available to many 
members of this list.

MORG is concerned with MUA interactions with Message Stores, which in 
Internet terms means IMAP clients doing advanced organization and 
searching using not-yet-existent IMAP server features - currently, a 
lot of this kind of functionality is handled by the clients 
downloading all messages in the store to a local store, and then 
performing local operations (in some cases adding metadata which is 
then not replicated to the IMAP store) - this leads to a certain 
degree of non-interoperability, but it's also painfully inefficient.

Although I'd welcome as much input as possible in these early stages, 
the most likely impact for XMPP folk would be related to message 
archiving features. To a large degree, that's probably best handled 
by specifying a lossless transformation between XMPP <message/> 
stanza and RFC2822[bis], which in turn is most likely best handled 
here, not MORG.

Such a specification would, IMHO, be best handled by something along 
the lines of:

1) Extract suitable headers, including from, to, in-reply-to, and 
2) Extract plain text portion, if any.
3) Construct a message with the headers from (1), and a 
multipart/alternative of (2) and the original <message/> stanza.

If there's interest, I'll write that up in detail.

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