[Standards] stream restarts

Justin Karneges justin-keyword-jabber.093179 at affinix.com
Wed Apr 30 02:27:47 UTC 2008

On Tuesday 29 April 2008 1:55 pm, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Right. There is also the fact that using one stream header will enable
> us to quiet those who say that XMPP is not XML. :P

An XML document isn't defined as being the entirety of a TCP connection 
anyway, so I don't see how stream restarts lead to the argument that "XMPP is 
not XML".  Yeah, I'm slightly sad we can't just point an XML parser at a TCP 
socket and be done with it, but those days were over the moment we wanted 

Personally, I think removing the stream restarts might make XMPP more /unlike/ 
XML, because then the document is no longer continuous.  A single XML parsing 
state has to bridge between parsing unencrypted to parsing encrypted for the 
same document.  Contrast this to the current practice, where when the 
switchover occurs, you work on a fresh document with a new parsing instance.

However, I am interested in optimizing away round trips.  I wonder if perhaps 
a more clean (and compatible) way would be to write Tony Finch's "psychic 
stream restarts" right into the RFC.


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