[Standards] pubsub simplification

Ralph Meijer jabber.org at ralphm.ik.nu
Tue Jul 29 14:46:06 UTC 2008

Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Ralph Meijer wrote:
>> Dave Cridland wrote:
>>> On Tue Jul 29 06:49:41 2008, Kevin Smith wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Peter Saint-Andre 
>>>> <stpeter at stpeter.im> wrote:
>>>> > In accordance with XMPP Council consensus, I have provisionally 
>>>> separated
>>>> > all the information about pubsub collections into a new spec:
>>>> > I wonder if at the same time we might want to move the information 
>>>> about
>>>> > presence integration from XEP-0060 back to XEP-0163?
>>>> I'm in favour of splitting collections, but not so much of splitting
>>>> out presence - we spent quite a long time deciding that 163 should
>>>> only be a profile of 60, from what I recall.
>>> As a suggestion - and I'm only highlighting options - we could split 
>>> out the fancier things into one or more new specifications, leaving 
>>> XEP-0060 as a core, with extra XEPs holding additional features, and 
>>> XEP-0163 binds XEP-0060 and a selection of brightly coloured coat 
>>> hangers into the profile that is PEP.
>>> I'm not sure if this is a good idea, mind - it's not clear to me if 
>>> this gives a net benefit or not - but it would keep XEP-0163's 
>>> "profile" status.
>> I was thinking the same thing, indeed.
> Right. So not all pubsub-related features would be defined in XEP-0060, 
> because certain "profiles" (the only example we have so far is PEP) 
> would define new node configuration options and the like. The result 
> would be that XEP-0060 defines the core (is that just "pub" and "sub"?) 
> whilst other specs define things like collections, presence integration, 
> filtered notifications, subscription options, management of subscription 
> requests by the node owner and other such administrative tasks, etc. So 
> we'd have a stripped-down XEP-0060 and a bunch of extensions to the 
> pubsub core.

I don't think that is what Dave suggests. Rather, leaving XEP-0163 as is 
and split XEP-0060 up in multiple documents, probably requiring 
reference updates.


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