[Standards] stream restarts

Stephen Pendleton stephenpendleton at hotmail.com
Thu May 8 02:48:38 UTC 2008


I don't understand why you would be concerned if what was flowing through the socket was a mix of ascii then "binary" data. When all is said and done the XML parser sees XML. The TLS and compression is handled outside of the parser, in other layers. The XML parser doesn't need to know anything about that. The parser only sees a single <stream:stream> in the new scheme and a valid XML document (I think).

> Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 22:42:54 +0100> From: dave at cridland.net> To: standards at xmpp.org> Subject: Re: [Standards] stream restarts> > > You've run together three different streams, with four different XML > streams running inside them. Apologies for the overloading of the > term "stream" - I can't think of a better word right now.> > When you say "[TLS negotiation]" and continue with other XML, what > you actually could do more accurately is write "[Unreadable TLS 8-bit > non-line-orientated data]". Much the same where you don't mention the > layer insertion at all at the XEP-0138 point. This is what Justin > means by saying that it reduces the "XMLishness" of the XML stream - > it really isn't a complete document without those stream restarts.> > Frankly, I'm not bothered at all by whether it's classically XML or > not, it's much more interesting, to me, to argue this one over > round-trips, and other things which are actually useful - I'm afraid > I'm with Curtis, whether you think stream restarts are evil or not, > they're here to stay, now, irregardless of whether we try to avoid > them.> > Dave.> -- > Dave Cridland - mailto:dave at cridland.net - xmpp:dwd at jabber.org> - acap://acap.dave.cridland.net/byowner/user/dwd/bookmarks/> - http://dave.cridland.net/> Infotrope Polymer - ACAP, IMAP, ESMTP, and Lemonade
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