[Standards] stream restarts

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Thu May 8 17:55:27 UTC 2008

On 05/08/2008 11:31 AM, Greg Hudson wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 11:40 -0400, Stephen Pendleton wrote:
>> I think the reasons are:
>> - There is no reason have have stream restarts because the reasons
>> they were introduced ended up not to be correct. 
>> - The protocol "looks" better. Fewer stanzas are needed during the
>> login/authentication process I believe.
>> - Some implementations will not need to throw away/reset their parsers
>> anymore. Currently this is necessary for all implementations that I
>> know of and those using the style of architecture I show below will no
>> longer need to do this because the XML parser will be presented with a
>> complete XML stream, instead of multiple ones. I don't think we should
>> be changing the core protocol based on implementations though, so this
>> is less important to me.
> These are not compelling reasons to introduce a change to a protocol
> already in wide use.  You cannot "clean up" an existing protocol, only
> make it messier by introducing transition issues.

I have not read this entire thread yet, but I'd like to point out that
the possible change is not a modification to the existing behavior, but
a new yet slightly modified stream feature. We would not change the
behavior of STARTTLS and SASL negotiation as currently defined.


Peter Saint-Andre

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