[Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0199 (XMPP Ping)

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Mon May 4 22:24:48 UTC 2009

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On 4/30/09 1:59 PM, Dave Cridland wrote:
> On Thu Apr 30 17:16:40 2009, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> 1. Who has implemented XEP-0199? Please note that the protocol must be
>> implemented in at least two separate codebases (and preferably more).
> Isode M-Link has implemented XEP-0199 for some time, both responding
> cleanly to pings, and sending them to actively check for "ghosted"
> client connections as part of its timeout strategy. Both these pings
> have been tested for interoperability with existing clients claiming to
> support XEP-0199, and we have found no issues.

Thanks for the report.

>> 2. Have developers experienced any problems with the protocol as defined
>> in XEP-0199? If so, please describe the problems and, if possible,
>> suggested solutions.
> There exist a number of clients, often on mobile devices, which do not
> respond to unknown <iq/> stanzas, in violation of RFC 3920. This can
> cause servers using pings to detect unresponsive clients to disconnect
> clients which are actually live.
> Whilst it's obviously not the place of this specification to fix this
> problem - if these client authors are ignoring RFC 3920 anyway they'll
> hardly conform to this - it may be useful to note this issue.
>> 3. Is the text of XEP-0199 clear and unambiguous? Are more examples
>> needed? Is the conformance language (MAY/SHOULD/MUST) appropriate? Have
>> developers found the text confusing at all? Please describe any
>> suggestions you have for improving the text.
> Just prior to Example 15, there is a MUST which repeats a requirement in
> RFC 3920. Instead, I suggest replacing this with:
> "If the pinged entity does not support the ping namespace, RFC 3920
> requires it to return a <service-unavailable/> stanza error."
> There is a similar case with the first MUST in the Security Considerations.

Fixed in my working copy.


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