[Standards] Invisible Command and probes

Matthew Wild mwild1 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 30 15:20:24 UTC 2010

On 30 June 2010 16:16, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im> wrote:
> On 6/30/10 12:48 AM, Matthew Wild wrote:
>> On 30 June 2010 06:13, Paul Aurich <paul at darkrain42.org> wrote:
>>> While discussing XEP-0186 (Invisible Command) in
>>> prosody at conference.prosody.im, I noticed that the specification doesn't
>>> actually mention whether or not a server is supposed to generate any
>>> sort of presence probes.
>>> Waqas suggested that based on historical discussions, most people think
>>> the server shouldn't (I disagree, but anyway.)  Regardless of which side
>>> of that people are on, I think the specification should, at the very
>>> least, bring up the topic.
>> I wasn't around for the discussion (I was sleeping for once) but my
>> plan for a while has been to add a new attribute to signal this.
>> Setting probe='true' would ask the server to send probes (and thus
>> risk revealing your connected state) or probe='false' to not do this,
>> but understand you may not receive presence from your contacts.
> When in doubt, introduce an option? ;-)

As a wise developer once said: "You can please some of the people all
of the time, all of the people some of the time, or you can introduce
an option."


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