[Standards] Invisible Command and probes

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Wed Jun 30 15:27:50 UTC 2010


On 6/30/10 9:20 AM, Matthew Wild wrote:
> On 30 June 2010 16:16, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im> wrote:
>> On 6/30/10 12:48 AM, Matthew Wild wrote:
>>> On 30 June 2010 06:13, Paul Aurich <paul at darkrain42.org> wrote:
>>>> While discussing XEP-0186 (Invisible Command) in
>>>> prosody at conference.prosody.im, I noticed that the specification doesn't
>>>> actually mention whether or not a server is supposed to generate any
>>>> sort of presence probes.
>>>>
>>>> Waqas suggested that based on historical discussions, most people think
>>>> the server shouldn't (I disagree, but anyway.)  Regardless of which side
>>>> of that people are on, I think the specification should, at the very
>>>> least, bring up the topic.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I wasn't around for the discussion (I was sleeping for once) but my
>>> plan for a while has been to add a new attribute to signal this.
>>> Setting probe='true' would ask the server to send probes (and thus
>>> risk revealing your connected state) or probe='false' to not do this,
>>> but understand you may not receive presence from your contacts.
>>
>> When in doubt, introduce an option? ;-)
>>
> 
> As a wise developer once said: "You can please some of the people all
> of the time, all of the people some of the time, or you can introduce
> an option."

Where would this option go and how would it be used? Examples would help. :)


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