[Standards] MUC actor

Matthew Wild mwild1 at gmail.com
Wed Apr 6 03:59:49 UTC 2011

On 6 April 2011 04:45, Brian Cully <bcully at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 2011, at 23:24, Matthew Wild <mwild1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The only downside to this is backwards-compatibility. I haven't tested
>> any, but it might upset some clients to see an <actor> with no 'jid'.
> Why can't the JID be no more than the room JID, and rely on existing mechanisms to map that to a real JID. If you have access to see the real JID of a participant, then you should be able to see it for the actors, if you don't, then you shouldn't. I don't see what's special about the actor JID versus any other in a MUC context.

The scenario is that in an anonymous room you want to be able to show
messages like "bjc was kicked from the room by MattJ", which are
pretty standard in e.g. IRC. Currently there is no way to do this
within the spec (as far as I'm aware) - you can have my bare JID or


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