[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0277 (Microblogging over XMPP)

Sergey Dobrov binary at jrudevels.org
Fri Jun 3 08:50:31 UTC 2011

On 06/03/2011 12:01 AM, Arc Riley wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Sergey Dobrov <binary at jrudevels.org
> <mailto:binary at jrudevels.org>> wrote:
>     I agree but if file attachment already in XEP we have to specify how
>     client could upload it. Am I wrong?
> The XEP is in "experimental" status, something being in the current XEP
> does not mean it must remain there.
> I believe that file attachements are out of scope for microblogging. 
> Most microblogging services do not support it, it breaks the whole
> concept of "140 characters or less".  If you want to "attach" a photo,
> upload it to the web somewhere and include the URL, same as if your
> microblog were an oggcast or bittorrent feed.
I agree that attachments are ambiguous but I don't agree that we should
restrict users with "140 chars or less". XEP doesn't restrict that and I
think that's a good decision because restrictions are bad idea for user
always. We want to create transports to other microblogging networks and
they can have other restrictions so if we will no have any restrictions
then we will able to use any network. Also, XEP defines xhtml content in
summary now. And I think that this is the right decision too.

> If you'd like to handle file uploads and albums via XMPP then use an
> existing extension for file uploads to a service.  It doesn't need to be
> specified here just because Jappix supports it.  This extension already
> risks being too complex for wide scale implementation.
Agreed. So we should remove file attachments from XEP, I think.

With best regards,
Sergey Dobrov,
XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org founder.

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