[Standards] XEP-0258 and XEP-0060

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Mon Nov 21 22:49:30 UTC 2011

On Mon Nov 21 20:43:30 2011, Kurt Zeilenga wrote:
> On Nov 18, 2011, at 2:52 AM, Ashley Ward wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Finally, I'd point (back) to my Last Call comments - from back  
> when
> >> the specification *did* have a PubSub section - where I pointed  
> out
> >> that the catalogue work needs work to cover not only jid, but
> >> jid+node. Not a major change, but a change nonetheless.
> >
> > I didn't realise this used to be I the spec! I've just read the  
> old spec
> > (v0.9) and it's pretty much exactly what I was thinking of above  
> (with the
> > <securitylabel/> within the <item/> which violates the schema for  
> pubsub).
> > I guess it was removed at that time because it's actually not  
> that easy!
> PubSub Security label spec was removed from XEP 258 simply because  
> I and others did not believe it had enough implementation  
> experience to garner Draft status.
> It's my intent to reintroduce the spec as a separate XEP 258 and,  
> at least initially, without significant syntax or semantical  
> changes to the spec.
> I'll consider the possibility of adding siblings to the <item/> in  
> the <items/> element.  But I hate order dependent stuff.  I rather  
> use some id= attributes (on the item) and a target= attributes on  
> the associated meta-data element to link them... and just suggest  
> they be sent together.
One label per publish suits me.

> As far as Dave's concern about changing labels, I note that we do  
> need to well support item visibility changes in XEP 60.  I don't  
> have any specific suggestions on how here.

I had a label change concern?

Well, I do now, but I don't remember having that as a concern before.

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