[Standards] MSN does XMPP

dmex dmex04 at gmail.com
Thu Sep 15 19:58:05 UTC 2011

It is like facebook but Microsoft is interoperating and is/was working with
Facebook, XMPP is how Live Messenger has supported facebook XMPP chat since
last year. Microsoft use their Lync Server to convert the XMPP messages into
the appropriate MSNP messages, They worked with Facebook directly in using
the X-FACEBOOK-PLATFORM sasl authentication to authenticate users on Live
from Messenger with Facebook and they based their authentication on the
Facebook sasl authentication.

You can use the information here as a guide for X-MESSENGER-OATH2:

Open an embedded browser instance to:
tps://oauth.live.com/desktop&response_type=token&scope=wl.basic', then once
the user authenticates and allows access and once that’s complete you get
your usual oath access_token for authenticating via xmpp.

-----Original Message-----
From: standards-bounces at xmpp.org [mailto:standards-bounces at xmpp.org] On
Behalf Of Justin Karneges
Sent: Friday, 16 September 2011 12:31 AM
To: XMPP Standards
Subject: Re: [Standards] MSN does XMPP

On Thursday, September 15, 2011 09:14:05 AM Nicolas Vérité wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 18:05, Coyo Stormbringer <coyotama at gmail.com>
> > bow chicka wow w-- *AHEM*
> > 
> > probably meaning chat.facebook.com.
> > 
> > On 9/15/2011 11:00 AM, Justin Karneges wrote:
> >> On Thursday, September 15, 2011 02:09:20 AM dmex wrote:
> >>> Microsoft has been doing XMPP for the last 6 months or so with 
> >>> facebook via an xmpp service running at 
> >>> 'beta.xmpp.messenger.live.com' and it looks like its now public.
> >> 
> >> What do you mean "with facebook" ?
> Yes, they have apparently the same approach: offering border gateway, 
> to their internal chat system, still running on proprietary protocol.

So probably dmex instead meant "like facebook" ?  On first read it sounded
like Microsoft and Facebook were interoperating, which is why I wanted


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