[Standards] admin->none, what happens to user if in member-only room

Kurt Zeilenga Kurt.Zeilenga at Isode.COM
Wed Sep 21 23:46:00 UTC 2011

On Sep 21, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

> On 9/21/11 5:37 PM, Kevin Smith wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im> wrote:
>>>> Personally, I think the occupant which loss admin privs to a
>>>> member-only room ought to be kicked.  Others might think otherwise.
>>> Why not transition from admin to mere member? I don't see a reason to
>>> kick or ban someone just because they're no longer an admin, even in a
>>> members-only room. And in any case it all depends on what the owner does
>>> (change affiliation from admin to member or admin to none or admin to
>>> outcast).
>> I think that if you're in a members-only room and you remove someone
>> from the admin list, you'd expect all lists to be as they were prior
>> to this act, except the admin list to not contain this person. That
>> is: I would not expect removing people from the admin list to put them
>> into another list. If this *is* what's desired, a user can logically
>> remove from admin and add to members.
> In the client I use for room administration (Psi), there's an Owners
> List, an Admins List, a Members List, and a Banned List. I assume that
> if I add someone to one of the lists, they're no longer on any of the
> others. I'd also assume that if I remove someone from a list, they're
> not automatically added to another list (i.e., affiliation='none').

There's not a none list.  None is the absense of being on any of the other lists.

> However I would consider it reasonable in a members-only room for
> removal from the Owners List or the Admins List to result in adding that
> person to the Members List.

The client could offer you that option, possibly as its default.

But let's talk wire semantics.

> In that regard members-only rooms are somewhat special, I think.
> Peter
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> Peter Saint-Andre
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