[Standards] XEP-0301 -- embedding small illustrative animated GIF into spec

Matthew Miller linuxwolf at outer-planes.net
Wed Aug 1 15:08:13 UTC 2012

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I have concerns embedding something into a document that reduces its printability.  As archaic as this sounds, I often print specifications in order to review them!

That said, I'm not immediately opposed to it, but would approach with caution. The text is still the record of authority here.

- - m&m

Matthew A. Miller

On Aug 1, 2012, at 07:46, Mark Rejhon wrote:

> Note: Precedent on image embeds exists -- an example image is embedded into
> XHTML-IM (XEP-0071).
> On 2012-08-01 8:53 AM, "Peter Saint-Andre" <stpeter at stpeter.im> wrote:
>> On 7/23/12 1:17 PM, Mark Rejhon wrote:
>>> [Question]
>>> Understood -- animation really helps explains real-time text, if they
>>> haven't seen it before.
>>> Can we use a more well-known site (i.e. realtimetext.org
>>> <http://realtimetext.org>?) since we can put my animations there too?
>>> Alternatively, can we embed an image, like XEP-0071 has an embedded
>>> image?  (If I make a generic animation, and convert it to animated GIF
>>> format)
>> I think it would be great to host a sample animated GIF at xmpp.org, for
>> archival purposes.
> For now, I have switched it to realtimetext.org in the already-published
> v0.6, but an embed (found in certain XEP's) would be even more preferable,
> though it obviously would have to be very small and very generic, which
> probably requires it to be hand-made or a special RealJabber mod.
> Examples animations I have already made, which are probably not suitable,
> but useful to see:
> 1. My animation of key press intervals
> http://www.realjabber.org/anim/real_time_text_demo.html
> - too big
> - too non-generic
> 2. Facebook-style concept animation
> http://www.realjabber.org/anim/facebook_chat_concept.gif
> - closer to correct size
> - but too non-generic
> 3. The animation on cover page
> http://www.realjabber.org
> - still too non-generic
> - this was my first animation ever
> So, that means:
> As I will have to hand-make a genericization (something suitable even for a
> Wikipedia page, for the 'real-time text' entry)...
> ...If no other people at XSF objects technically to an image embed, what
> are the recommended criteria for an image embed in XEP-0301 demoing generic
> real time text:
> - minimal GUI elements (OS neutral)
> - small size
> - romeo/juliet names (recommended)
> - no cuecard introduction frame
> - compatible open source imagery only
> Mark Rejhon

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