[Standards] NEW: XEP-0308 (Last Message Correction)- Interop with XEP 0301 RTT

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Wed Jul 18 21:58:48 UTC 2012

On 7/18/12 3:56 PM, Mark Rejhon wrote:
> On 2012-07-18 5:39 PM, "Gunnar Hellström" <gunnar.hellstrom at omnitor.se
> <mailto:gunnar.hellstrom at omnitor.se>> wrote:
>> On 2012-07-18 01:57, Mark Rejhon wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Mark Rejhon <markybox at gmail.com
> <mailto:markybox at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Lance Stout <lancestout at gmail.com
> <mailto:lancestout at gmail.com>> wrote: 
>>> And the bottom line -- is there interest from anybody else in the
> list for me to add the optional 'id' attribute to XEP-0301?  I'd keep it
> as a modification in reserve, to be added only when XEP-0308 becomes draft.
>>> Unless anyone believes I should cover it in XEP-0301 right now, today?   
>>> It's such an edge case today, but is there interest from others in
> including it in XEP-0301 right now?
>> The function of edit latest message is important to get into XMPP
> real-time text.
>> It should not wait years.
>> But you notice that the protocol for it has not settled yet, and the
> specification of it will reference XEP-0308.
>> I would not like to see XEP-0301 becoming dependent on other
> experimental XEPs.
>> Therefore I suggest that real-time editing of last completed message
> is done as a later improvement of XEP-0301 or new small extension.
> There seems to be agreement by a few, about waiting till XEP-0308 is
> Draft. 
> Now....It is a reasonably minor update to XEP-0301 that is only used if
> used along with XEP-0308 and backwards compatible.  I think the change
> to XEP-0301 can be kept to as little as a single paragraph, the problem
> is I'd have to mention a potentially rarely used (for a long while) 'id'
> attribute in an early XEP-0301 chapter, which I don't like to have to
> introduce until XEP-0308 is Draft and more widey used.
> That said, I'd like  still need to hear about some clarity about
> XEP-0308 proper usage, from the perspective of Lance's message.  Peter?

Kevin wrote XEP-0308, so I'll defer to him. :)


Peter Saint-Andre

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