[Standards] Stamping on one's head Re: Fwd: Minutes 20121011

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Mon Oct 15 14:46:47 UTC 2012

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On 10/15/12 1:44 AM, Kevin Smith wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Andreas Kuckartz
> <A.Kuckartz at ping.de> wrote:
>> According to http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xmpp-council/ ralphm
>> is currently a member of the XMPP Council.
>> Can someone please let me know if he has a veto right there?
> Yes - the process is described in 
> http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0001.html#approval; any Council
> member can prevent advancement of a XEP indefinitely (whether this
> is a good idea is up for debate, but that's the way it is).
>> If that is the case there would be no reason for me to spend a
>> minute more on finding a reasonable way to add RDFa to XEP-0071.
>> I generally do not participate in discussions with a
>> predetermined outcome.
> Council members have been known to change their minds, but in this 
> case I think a significant change in scope/purpsoe of a Draft XEP 
> immediately before advancement to Final might be a bit extreme.
> This doesn't, however, prevent proposal of a new XEP implementing
> RDFa, which would seem a sensible route to take here.

Andreas, I agree with Kev -- Ralph is concerned about making major
changes to the scope of XEP-0071 when it is close to a Final spec.
However, developing a new spec for RDFa over XMPP makes sense. In
fact, I think it would be simpler than XEP-0071 because in XEP-0071 we
had to define a new Integration Set using XHTML modularization (which
I found kind of confusing at the time), whereas the W3C has already
defined RDFa for us using XHTML modularization, so all we need to do
is define a wrapper element for sending RDFa over XMPP. In fact, I
chatted with someone else about this very topic last week, so I will
introduce you to him offlist in case you want to work together.


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