[Standards] Request for Comments: XEP: Tables in Instant Messaging

Peter Waher Peter.Waher at clayster.com
Fri Dec 13 14:29:22 UTC 2013

Hello Sergey

Thanks for your question. The relation to XHTML-IM is twofold. First, it was my first suggestion to use XHTML-IM as a means to send tables. Example:

But the general consensus in the group was that using XHTML-IM for tables was not the preferred option. Instead it would be better to have another XEP detailing how to send tables between IM-clients. So, this XEP does not specify how to send tables in XHTML-IM (as it is actually forbidden, unless an extension is made and the entire XHTML tables module is implemented). However, the XEP mentions this can be done, but not that it should be done. It also foresees the possibility that this will change and details how clients should prioritize XHTML-IM vs. tables as detailed in this XEP.

Secondly, the second relation to XHTML-IM is the ability to embed XHTML-IM in cells in the table.

Did this answer your question?

Best regards,
Peter Waher

-----Original Message-----
From: Sergey Dobrov [mailto:binary at jrudevels.org] 
Sent: den 12 december 2013 09:13
To: XMPP Standards
Subject: Re: [Standards] Request for Comments: XEP: Tables in Instant Messaging

Hello Peter,

I didn't read the document carefully yet and my question may sound stupid, but I don't really understand the relation of the document to XHTML-IM. Will we be able to use tables in conjunction with XHTML-IM? I can't see such example.

On 12/12/2013 09:31 AM, Peter Waher wrote:
> Hello
> I’ve written a new proposal for a XEP: Tables in Instant Messaging.
> (attached).
> As we discussed earlier, it was considered a better idea to have a 
> separate XEP for this, than to extend XEP-0071 (XHTML-IM) to support 
> tables (which was my original idea). So, I’ve written a proposal for 
> this, trying to keep tables as simple as possible for simple 
> implementation into IM-clients.
> What do you think? Any comments and suggestions are appreciated.
> Best regards,
> Peter Waher

With best regards,
Sergey Dobrov,
XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org founder.

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