[Standards] e2e privacy for XMPP Re: RFC 3923 (e2e with S/MIME) and OpenPGP

Andreas Kuckartz a.kuckartz at ping.de
Mon Nov 18 12:07:26 UTC 2013

Simon Tennant:
> IMHO, e2e security would probably make more sense as a XEP and working
> group that has the time to zoom into all the implementation details.

Can that be solved by an XEP ?

What about this IETF draft? (I still have to read it)

End-to-End Object Encryption and Signatures for the Extensible Messaging
and Presence Protocol (XMPP)

There exist people who mention XMPP as belonging to "faulty
technologies" for which they want to create alternatives:

And I try to find out what can be done to improve XMPP regarding
security and privacy.


> On 18 November 2013 10:30, Andreas Kuckartz <a.kuckartz at ping.de
> <mailto:a.kuckartz at ping.de>> wrote:
>     Peter Saint-Andre some time ago wrote:
>     > On 7/16/13 4:27 AM, Carlo v. Loesch wrote:
>     >> Since XMPP isn't suitable for keeping meta-data private I would
>     >> presume that e2e privacy is out of scope for this mailing list,
>     >> really.
>     >
>     > True.
>     Where would the topic e2e privacy for XMPP be "in scope" ?
>     Cheers,
>     Andreas

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