[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0345 (Form of Membership Applications)

Matthew A. Miller linuxwolf at outer-planes.net
Wed Jul 23 20:35:45 UTC 2014

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Let's see how pedantic this really gets ...

On 7/10/14, 8:25 PM, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote:
> This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0345 (Form of Membership Applications).
> Abstract:
>             This specification outlines the form and mandatory content
>             of membership applications.
> URL: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0345.html
> This Last Call begins today and shall end at the close of business on
> Please consider the following questions during this Last Call and send
your feedback to the standards at xmpp.org discussion list:
> 1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol
stack or to clarify an existing protocol?
I do think this specification fills gaps in the XMPP protocol (of
> 2. Does the specification solve the problem stated in the introduction
and requirements?
I believe it mostly does, but have a nit (see below).
> 3. Do you plan to implement this specification in your code? If not,
why not?
I do plan to implement this specification in my code (of conduct).
> 4. Do you have any security concerns related to this specification?
I am concerned about the implication that an applicant could lie,
although I am not sure what actions ought to be undertaken.  I do think
it is worth spelling out that it is possible for an applicant to lie,
and that members SHOULD be aware of this in evaluating applications.

> 5. Is the specification accurate and clearly written?
This document does describe code (of conduct) with defined success cases
and error handling.  As such, I find it a little odd that it does not
use normative MUST/SHOULD/SHALL/MAY/SHOULD NOT/MUST NOTs.  I think that
if we wish to hold our code (of conduct) to a high level of
interoperability, we ought to be more explicit about that.

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