[Standards] XMPP Myths
renzel at dbis.rwth-aachen.de
Tue Aug 11 07:06:52 UTC 2015
Am 10.08.2015 um 22:11 schrieb Dave Cridland:
> On 10 August 2015 at 18:37, Dominik Renzel <renzel at dbis.rwth-aachen.de>
>> Nice compilation, Dave.
>> As one of the guys from xmppresearch.org, I might add a bit from the
>> academic side. There is quite a body of literature available on XMPP
>> research (and - yes, we keep collecting!). We're currently working on a
>> survey paper on a collection of XMPP research from 2003 till today. I can't
>> reveal too much, but a little bit of overview allows me to wield the
>> academagic battle-axe at least for two myths.
>> Myth Two:
>> Although I don't know if the scientific use of XMPP extensions mirrors
>> practical deployment, I would assume that there are certain similarities.
>> In response to a request during this year's summit in Diegem, Belgium, my
>> dear colleague Daniel Schuster from TU Dresden created a tag cloud of the
>> XEPs in scientific use, extracted from 250 different papers:
> That's awesome; I'll link to that in the Myth Two section.
>> Myth Three:
>> There is quite some scientific evidence on the use of XMPP in
>> bandwidth-critical, mobile settings, especially in the last five years.
>> You find literature on mobile sensor networks, mobile apps, IoT, etc.,
>> some of them applied in disaster scenarios with no or very impaired public
>> communication infrastructure. Bandwidth-efficiency is hardly ever mentioned
>> as a problem.
> Yes, I'll poke about and see how much of the use-cases I'm aware of can be
> talked about openly, since there's sectors using XMPP over low-bandwidth
> for mission-critical messaging that are really eye-opening - and I didn't
> even know about the disaster cases - links would be great.
About the disaster cases:
Klauck, Ronny; Gäbler, Jan; Kirsche, Michael; Schoepke, Sebastian
(2011): Mobile XMPP and Cloud Service Collaboration: An Alliance for
Flexible Disaster Management. In: 7th International Conference on
Collaborative Computing: Networking, Applications and Worksharing,
CollaborateCom 2011, Orlando, FL, USA, 15-18 October, 2011, pp. 201–210,
Klauck, Ronny; Kirsche, Michael (2012): XMPP to the Rescue: Enhancing
Post Disaster Management and Joint Task Force Work. In: Pervasive
Computing and Communications Workshops (PERCOM Workshops), 2012 IEEE
International Conference on, pp. 752–757, IEEE, 2012.
Klauck, Ronny; Kirsche, Michael (2013): Combining Mobile XMPP Entities
and Cloud Services for Collaborative Post-Disaster Management in Hybrid
Network Environments. In: Mobile Networks and Applications - The Journal
of SPECIAL ISSUES on Mobility of Systems, Users, Data and Computing, 18
(2), pp. 253 – 270, 2013.
About Mobile & IoT applications of XMPP in research:
Go to http://www.xmppresearch.org/bibliography/ and check the tag cloud
on top of the page. "Mobile" is THE top tag (with 56 papers from
2004-now). For IoT we collected 30 papers from 2009-now. By clicking on
the tags, you get the full list. By following links you at least get the
abstracts. For reading the full paper, you'll most likely slam against
>> Am 10.08.2015 um 18:02 schrieb Dave Cridland:
>>> I've noticed that a large well-funded group have been attending a number
>>> conferences and making unfortunately ill-informed statements about XMPP,
>>> favour of their own solution in a number of spaces in which we overlap.
>>> In conformity with Napoleon's suggestion that one should never attribute
>>> malice that which can adequately be explained by incompetence, I have
>>> to address these statements directly, but sadly while representatives of
>>> the organization were willing to agree they would correct their website,
>>> they have remained too incompetent to do so.
>>> This is terribly unfortunate, and so to help address this I knocked up
>>> answers to specific "myths" on a Wiki page, intended (by me) as a draft
>>> blog post (but it could just as well stay on the Wiki, get reused as
>>> website content, or whatever).
>>> It's here: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/index.php?title=Myths
>>> Suggestions and corrections would be very much welcome; feel free to
>>> edit directly, or (possibly preferable) discuss in the XSF chatroom at
>>> xsf at muc.xmpp.org
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