[Standards] Move CSI to Last Call ("Proposed")

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Tue Jul 28 09:14:48 UTC 2015

On 28 July 2015 at 10:11, Edwin Mons <jsf at edwinm.ik.nu> wrote:

>  On 28/07/15 11:05, Dave Cridland wrote:
>  > Also, why wrap the server notification in a message,
>> And not using a Nonza? Because most libraries provide a mechanism for
>> callbacks matching a given filter only for Stanzas. It's my impression
>> as as XMPP client library developer, that we don't want Nonzas to
>> trigger callbacks on the client side, as it would increase the
>> complexity of XMPP client software stacks.
>  It's very wrong.
>  Consider a case where the client goes active, then switches to inactive
> but loses connection and recovers via '198. The response - which is tightly
> bound to the session - would indicate that the client was inactive, but
> would arrive on a subsequent connection which is not inactive.
> If you're doing in-band signalling, you really need to be able to
> distinguish signals from actual data.  If you use stanzas, you're making it
> very hard for yourself.

I'm considering writing an I-D for likes for email just for this.
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