[Standards] {Core|Advanced} {Client|Server} 2015

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Thu Jun 18 14:25:42 UTC 2015


On 18 Jun 2015 15:01, "Kurt Zeilenga" <kurt.zeilenga at isode.com> wrote:
>
> What’s the bar for “core”?  I would think it at least mature Draft
standard if not Full standard.
>
> I don’t think it’s appropriate to add Carbons to core when it seems that
there’s not consensus that it’s the best solution for any problem the
majority of XMPP IM/MUC deployments are facing.
>

There's consensus, I would argue, given that it's extremely well supported
in servers, desktop and mobile clients. In fact, finding servers that
didn't support it a year ago is hard.

> — Kurt
>
> > On Jun 17, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Peter Saint-Andre - &yet <peter at andyet.net>
wrote:
> >
> > On 6/17/15 3:33 PM, Dave Cridland wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 17 June 2015 at 20:52, Curtis King <cking at mumbo.ca
> >> <mailto:cking at mumbo.ca>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>    > On Jun 17, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Dave Cridland <dave at cridland.net
<mailto:dave at cridland.net>> wrote:
> >>    >
> >>    > Folks,
> >>    >
> >>    > Many moons past, before the dawn of a couple of years ago, we had
things like XEP-0302, which declared that - excitingly - advanced servers
might want to implement PEP.
> >>    >
> >>    > I think that these days, any server should be doing PEP. I
suspect we're nearing the point where we need to consider Carbons as a
"Core", rather than "Advanced”.
> >>
> >>    When was Carbons even listed as Advanced?
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah... I read that back and wondered what the hell I meant, sorry,
that
> >> was hopelessly unclear of me.
> >>
> >> I meant to say that Carbons wasn't even on there before, whereas it's
> >> now pretty much essential.
> >
> > Agreed with respect to the technology. With respect to the process, the
Carbons XEP is still Experimental. I think that it's not right to make a
XEP part of a compliance suite if it's still Experimental. But that can be
solved by moving the XEP forward on the standards track.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > --
> > Peter Saint-Andre
> > https://andyet.com/
>
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