[Standards] MIX Subject and Room Info Nodes

Steve Kille steve.kille at isode.com
Mon Dec 5 15:40:23 UTC 2016


Sam,

Thanks.

I would support removal of subject.    

However, if a real need is identified,  I can see merit in keeping it in the core XEP.

If there is not a clear consensus on the list,  this can be the first topic for Brussels


Steve



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Standards [mailto:standards-bounces at xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Sam
> Whited
> Sent: 05 December 2016 15:34
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> Subject: [Standards] MIX Subject and Room Info Nodes
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm in the process of reviewing MIX and wanted to ask the communities
> opinion about the subject/info nodes.
> 
> My initial thought on reading through the spec is that the subject node
> (§3.7.7 [1]) should be a part of the info node (§3.7.6 [2]). I asked Steve about
> this and he said the idea was that anyone could potentially chhange the
> subject while only certain users would have permission to change the room
> name / description (in the info node).
> So description would be a more "permanent" general description of the
> room, and the subject would change with the current conversation.
> 
> I know there are (or have been in the past) some popular IRC rooms that
> operate this way, but in general I don't think it's a very popular use case, and
> I'm not sure it belongs in the core MIX XEP. I wonder how people would feel
> about removing the subject node entirely and just keeping the description
> field in the info node (which, as far as I can tell, is how most rooms use the
> MUC subject anyways). If it turns out this feature is in high demand after all,
> it could always be written up as a separate XEP or added back later.
> 
> Best,
> Sam
> 
> [1]: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0369.html#subject-node
> [2]: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0369.html#info-node
> 
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