[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: References

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Mon Feb 15 14:03:00 UTC 2016

Non-blocking comments:

1) I think the begin/end bits probably need to be pulled out into a
different child element. Then you can have something like:

<bodytext begin=... end='...' xml:lang='cy'/>

... which would disambiguate multi-lingual messages (though this is
something of an edge-case).

We could also have other elements to indicate matches within other data.

2) The "type" here is given as a plain string; I think it might want to be
a URI - or possibly it might want to be a Link Relation Type:

It may want to stay as a plain string, though - it just feels like there's
avenues to explore.

3) I'm mildly concerned that §3.4 radically alters the meaning of the
<reference/> element. It seems to me that "This message refers to X" is
different to "That message refers to X" at a fairly fundamental level; the
former being metadata whereas the latter is the data itself for the stanza
in which they are present. This is merely a mild concern and I'm possibly
jumping at shadows, but the addition of a single attribute does seem to
radically alter the sense of the element itself. Would notifications of
mentions also use this syntax, by the way?

4) As noted in Council, I'd like to see a reference to the Twitter API upon
which this is largely based.

On 5 February 2016 at 15:52, XMPP Extensions Editor <editor at xmpp.org> wrote:

> The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP.
> Title: References
> Abstract: This document defines XMPP protocol for multi-user chat for text
> messages and sharing other information such as images.   The protocol
> includes core chatroom features such as room topics and invitations and
> defines a strong room control model, including the ability to kick and ban
> users, to name room moderators and administrators, to require membership or
> passwords in order to join the room.  The protocol aims to maximise use of
> standard XMPP building blocks and in particular makes use of PubSub and MAM.
> URL: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/references.html
> The XMPP Council will decide in the next two weeks whether to accept this
> proposal as an official XEP.
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