[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0313 (Message Archive Management)

Kevin Smith kevin.smith at isode.com
Mon Jun 13 10:49:42 UTC 2016

> On 13 Jun 2016, at 11:41, Matthew Wild <mwild1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12 June 2016 at 12:39, Daniel Gultsch <daniel at gultsch.de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm bumping this thread since it hasn't yielded too many responses since I
>> originally voiced my concerns.
>> To briefly summarize the matter again.
>> 1) XEP-0313 Section 5.1.2 describes a way for a server to inject the
>> original / real jid into MUC messages.
>> 2) This is a very useful addition to the spec in principal, however…
>> 3) As a client I can't trust this information without a namespace bump.
>> This means I would love to implement this in my client but I can't.
>> So I would strongly suggest to bump the namespace on MAM ASAP. However
>> bumping namespaces is not something we should do lightly and we should
>> consider doing other changes as well like the stanza-ids that have been
>> proposed over a year ago and are generally considered a good idea?
> I have a new version of XEP-0313 nearly ready to submit. One of the
> open questions is whether to bump the namespace or not. I was
> originally leaning towards not. However, if we do, there are some
> extra small improvements we can make. I'll review your concerns (which
> weren't already on my list of issues until now, so thanks for
> re-raising them), and merge them into the new revision (which I'm
> expecting to be the last before Draft).
> Meanwhile if anyone else has an opinion on this to share, now is the time.

What are the improvements if we bump?


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