[Standards] Notification of lost membership of non participants in MUC

Daniel Gultsch daniel at gultsch.de
Tue May 17 10:43:59 UTC 2016


Hi Christian

thanks I missed that because the XEP doesn't mention it for members and
neither ejabberd nor prosody actually do send those messages.

cheers
Daniel

2016-05-17 11:43 GMT+02:00 Christian Schudt <christian.schudt at gmx.de>:

> I think this is already covered by Example 195, isn't it? (and similarly
> 176, 190)
>
> -- Christian
>
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 17. Mai 2016 um 09:40 Uhr
> *Von:* "Daniel Gultsch" <daniel at gultsch.de>
> *An:* "XMPP Standards" <standards at xmpp.org>
> *Betreff:* [Standards] Notification of lost membership of non
> participants in MUC
>
> I'm currently modifying my MUC code and try to show offline members in
> private, non anonymous conferences and I noticed that if I change the
> affiliation of a non participant. The other participants are not notified
> about this.
>
> The general behavior for affiliation changes for participants is that the
> server generates a presence from their full jid announcing the change. If
> the user is offline this presence is not generated.
>
> A quick fix for this would be to send the same presence but from the bare
> jid. (the jid attribute in the payload can still give the user away) (That
> is of course if the recipient is allowed to view the real jid (either
> because they are admin or because the room is non anonymous)
>
> Maybe if people think a presence is not the right stanza the same
> announcement could be made with a message.
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
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