[Standards] XMPP Council Minutes 2017-08-23

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Wed Aug 23 15:30:40 UTC 2017

Present: Emmanuel, Dave, Sam, Daniel (Tobias sent apologies)

1) Roll Call

Emmanuel chaired, roll-call as above.

2) Minute Taker

Yours truly.

3) Compare-andPublic PubSub Items

Dave asked if it'd been announced on the list; it hasn't been, so he vetoed.


Emmanuel noted these were marked as "Needs Author". Dave (later)
suggested these might be blocked on the Contributor License Agreement
not being signed.

5) Carbons

Appears to have been derailed by Council voting to deprecate Hints.
Needs some more list discussion.

6) DOAP Proposal

Emmanuel withdrew this, saying it needed more work.

7) Voting reminders

XEP-0334 is on this list, but it was noted that Sam has vetoed this,
so it needs discussion on the list to deal with this.
Dave voted +1 to obsoleting XEP-0146: Remote Controlling Clients.
Emmanuel reminded himself and Tobias to vote on the publish-options change.

8) AOB

Georg Lukas asked if Council would vote on #499 (Resynchronizing joins
in MUC). All present voted +1, Tobias assumed to vote on list. Sam
noted that some existing clients may be affected by this; Dave noted
that this is the behaviour in jabber.org, and has been for many years.
Gtalk was affected due to a bug.

Georg also asked for some words of wisdom regarding the general
direction for carbons and hints. Emmanuel agreed there was confusion
everywhere, and suggested trying to sell the notion of transient
versus non-transient messages as a replacement for hints.

8 bis) AOB

Nobody had any this time.

9) Time of next


10) Ite, Meeting Est.

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