[Standards] [Members] 33C3 talk on Signal and current XMPP issue in providing a similar UX

Evgeny Khramtsov xramtsov at gmail.com
Tue Jan 3 09:55:42 UTC 2017

Tue, 3 Jan 2017 09:40:43 +0000
Dave Cridland <dave at cridland.net> wrote:

> Although one really need not use Bayesian classifiers (etc) merely
> with words; any indicators can be used as grist for the classifier's
> mill - such as subscription state, if there has been an outgoing
> message to the sender before, if the sender and recipient are within
> the same MUC anywhere, what unicode blocks are in use in the message,
> and so on.
> I agree there's disadvantages in SPIM versus SPAM, but there are also
> advantages in as much as the server knows a huge amount more about the
> overall states of the recipient jid than an email server can possibly
> know about its mailboxes.

I agree with you. I just replied to the question "why can't we borrow
email filters?".

> OK, for a concrete suggestion:
> Suspected SPIM gets sent into a multi-item, well-known, PEP node.
> Clients MAY subscribe to this, or MAY periodically poll this.

Fine by me. However, clients need to know the pep node, so probably some
XEP is required.

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