[Standards] Delayed Delivery for CSI and possibly SM

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Tue May 30 13:56:28 UTC 2017


On 30 May 2017 at 14:00, Daniel Gultsch <daniel at gultsch.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I noticed that some CSI implementations (and maybe some SM
> implementations as well) add a delayed delivery tag where the from is
> set to their own domain.
>
> However that gets us into trouble in at least one scenario:
> Namely when parsing the timestamp of a unavailable presence.
> Unavailable presences come in two forms. Either they don't have a
> delayed delivery or they have one where from is their server.
> To reliably tell the the timestamp of an offline presence we have to
> be able to tell if it was delayed by our own CSI/SM or by the remote
> server. This is impossible for contacts that are on the same server.
> For this reason I propose that CSI and SM implementations if they
> choose to add a delayed delivery element it should come from the
> account and not the server.
> (Neither XEP mentions how to deal with delayed delivery but a lot of
> implementations do. So I'd propose to make it OPTIONAL to add it but
> if they add it MUST be the accounts bare jid)

Yes, I like this.

Dave.


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