[Standards] 0174 Serverless Messaging: Discovering Capabilities

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Fri Apr 13 02:51:26 UTC 2018


On 3/12/18 9:17 AM, Christian Schudt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> my original question quickly drifted away to a discussion about the use case of serverless messaging.
> 
> But I feel my concern was not addressed:
> 
> 1. Why can’t the receiving entity include its Entity Caps as stream feature as described in XEP-0115?

That would be consistent with
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0115.html#stream

> 2. Why should we instead use disco#info? I don't consider disco#info in stream features an optimization which justifies the additional implementation overhead:
> - Deal with Entity Caps in TXT records. It's only to potentially know an entity's capabilities before having initiated a stream with it, right? Sounds ok then, but unreliable.
> - Deal with yet another stream feature which covers an existing use case: to know an entity's capabilities (Entity Caps, Caps 2.0, disco#info)
> - Nowhere else is disco#info mentioned to be included in stream features
> Thoughts?

I can't recall why we defined this disco#info thing but in hindsight I
agree that it's ugly.

> I'd prefer the following:
> The receiving entity includes Entity Caps in it's stream features. If not known by the initiating entity, it may request disco#info and proceed normally (verify and cache the result). Most, or even all of an existing Entity Caps implementation could be reused then.

Agreed.

> 3. Can the section be updated although the specification is final?

I would not object.

Peter



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