[Standards] Council Minutes 2018-02-07

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Wed Feb 7 17:13:11 UTC 2018


1) Roll Call - http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-07/#16:02:01

Kev sent apologies. [Kev is to vote on-list for all items]

All others present.

Dave asked if anyone was willing to take minutes, and was a bit
disappointed by the lack of response. He figures if he writes them
badly enough someone else will take it on.

2) Advance XEP-0363 to Draft - http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-07/#16:04:07

https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0363.html

Georg noted an issue with header encodings he has already noted on
list. He suspects a security issue is possible here which might allow
an XMPP server to infiltrate a corporate network in some cases. While
not totally confident this is exploitable, he believes it should be
noted in the Security Considerations prior to Advancement.

Georg's issues are here:
https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2017-November/033936.html

Dave noted he had missed some feedback on list, and would therefore
read this before voting.

Sam and Daniel both +1.
Georg -1 (as above: feedback to be addressed)

3) Advance XEP-0352 to Draft - http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-07/#16:11:22

https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0363.html

Georg noted the loose wording in §3.2. Dave and Sam both argued that
this was a feature not a bug.

Sam and Daniel both +1, Georg 0.

Dave noted outstanding feedback from Kev, and is voting -1 until he
understands what Kev wishes to do. (ie, this is a holding veto to
avoid the specification advancing by default if Kev doesn't vote for
some reason).

4) Advance XEP-0234 to Draft - http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-07/#16:15:32

https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0363.html

Daniel has outstanding feedback on this specification from Last Call.

Dave, Sam, Georg +1.
Daniel -1 (as above: feedback to be addressed)

5) Advance XEP-0186 to Draft - http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-07/#16:17:55

https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0363.html

All present +1

6) XEP-0198 handling of mismatched h value -
http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-07/#16:19:36

https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/579 and list discussion.

Dave felt this needs to specify a particular stream error, and could
probably be a SHOULD rather than MUST [thus demonstrating he should
read the PR before making stupid suggestions as the latter is there
already, sorry!].

Georg asked if Council should vote on the exact wording or just its
merit. Dave opined that Council must vote on the technical content of
the change.

Georg, Sam, Daniel all +1
Dave -1 for reasons noted above.

7) [ If time allows ] Post-summit discussion -
http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-07/#16:23:08

Georg noted that he'd like Server Operators to sign the Spam Fighting
Manifesto found at
https://gist.github.com/ge0rg/2e4accf6950821ca45f743fdf587c08e

Dave asked if Georg wanted Council to make any statement on this, and
Georg asked what kind of statement Council could make. Dave suggested
Council could make a statement about anything.

Dave proposed the motion that Council thanks the Summit sponsors and organisers.

All present voted +1.

Given Kev's clear conflict of interest - he is one of the subjects of
the thanks - Dave has sneakily bypassed his vote and Council therefore
duly thanks the organisers and sponsors of the Summit for their
support and hard work.

8) AOB - http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-07/#16:29:00

Sam noted that XHTML-IM is still up for deprecation. Save promised to
place this on next week's agenda, and moreover to flag this on the
standards list. Dave apologised for letting this slip another week,
and thanked Sam for his patience here.

9) Next Meeting - http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-07/#16:29:23

The next meeting shall be held on Wednesday 14th February 2018 at 1600
UTC. Bring roses.

10) Ite, Meeting Est - http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-07/#16:31:25


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