[Standards] Dusty Drafts

Kevin Smith kevin.smith at isode.com
Wed Feb 28 09:49:59 UTC 2018


On 27 Feb 2018, at 16:21, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im> wrote:
> 
> On 2/27/18 5:40 AM, Tedd Sterr wrote:
>> For reference, XEPs that list the given XEP as a dependency (to what
>> extent they actually make use of it is another matter):
> 
> Thanks. Further comments inline.
> 
>> *XEP-0020 (Feature Negotiation; Draft; 2006-11-21)*
>>  - XEP-0041 (Reliable Entity Link; Retra)
>>  - XEP-0052 (File Transfer; Retra)
>>  - XEP-0116 (Encrypted Session Negotiation; Defer)
>>  - XEP-0155 (Stanza Session Negotiation; Draft)
>>  - XEP-0187 (Offline Encrypted Sessions; Defer)
>>  - XEP-0217 (Simplified Encrypted Session Negotiation; Defer)
> 
> Encrypted sessions should be obsoleted, too.

+1

>> *XEP-0048 (Bookmarks; Draft; 2007-11-07)*
>>  - XEP-0387 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2018; Draft)
>> 
>> *XEP-0059 (Result Set Management; Draft; 2006-09-20)*
>>  - XEP-0060 (Publish-Subscribe; Draft)
> 
> We could look at the usage in pubsub and see if it's really needed. But
> I seem to recall a dependency in XEP-0045 too.

I thought we were talking about Finalling 59, not Obsoleting it. It’s absolutely core to 313.

>>  - XEP-0136 (Message Archiving; Depre)
>>  - XEP-0313 (Message Archive Management; Exper)
>>  - XEP-0329 (File Information Sharing; Defer)
>> 
>> *XEP-0066 (Out of Band Data; Draft; 2006-08-16)*
>>  - XEP-0129 (WebDAV File Transfers; Defer)
>>  - XEP-0158 (CAPTCHA Forms; Draft)
> 
> The XEP-0158 reference was there for backward-compatibility and could be
> removed if we want to modernize CAPTCHA forms.

We do we need to remove the reference from 158 if we’re moving 66 to Final? Draft specs depending on Final is fine.

>> *XEP-0092 (Software Version; Draft; 2007-02-15)*
>>  - (none listed)
> 
> This is widely implemented AFAIK.

Yes, may as well Final.

>> *XEP-0122 (Data Forms Validation; Draft; 2004-09-22)*
>>  - XEP-0325 (Internet of Things - Control; Retra)
>>  - XEP-0326 (Internet of Things - Concentrators; Retra)
>>  - XEP-0331 (Data Forms - Color Field Types; Defer)
>>  - XEP-0350 (Data Forms Geolocation Element; Defer)
> 
> Safe to obsolete.

I think in your other mail you suggest Finalling 122, not obsoleting it. It’s used, so I think Obsoleting would be wrong.

>> *XEP-0141 (Data Forms Layout; Draft; 2005-05-12)*
>>  - XEP-0325 (Internet of Things - Control; Retra)
>>  - XEP-0326 (Internet of Things - Concentrators; Retra)
> 
> Safe to obsolete.

I don’t see why we’d obsolete 141 either.

/K


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