[Standards] XMPP Council Minutes 2018-07-11

Tedd Sterr teddsterr at outlook.com
Fri Jul 13 15:47:28 UTC 2018


http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-07-11/#15:00:11

1) Role Call
Present: Kev, Dave, Sam, Georg, Daniel -- Full House!

2) Agenda Fiddling
Dave thinks Tedd's agenda seems OK and decides to go along with it.

3) PR #664 - XEP-0045: Add implementation note about {jabber:x:conference}x payload - https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/664
Kev: +1 (other than the typo, don't think this is harmful)
Georg: +1 (there is a typo)
Daniel: +1
Sam: +1
Dave: +1

4) PR #672 - XEP-0059: Add 'exact(-index)' attribute to RSM's <count/> and <first/> - https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/672
Kev missed the context on this and asks for the relevant subject line - would like to see the discussion, but is -1 regardless. Jonas thinks discussion was on xsf at .
Dave hasn't seen the discussion and it seems non-trivial.
Georg thinks it's overdoing - adding complexity for a very specific corner-case (but admits to the same crime.)
Kev notes that currently the XEP specifies results may be inexact and thus recipients must treat them as such, i.e. exact=false. Georg adds that it's actually exact=maybe.
Kev suggests that adding a SHOULD for new protocol to a Draft XEP needs to be done carefully.
The author would like to note that the commit message tries to provide a motivation; Georg considers "may use an optimized algorithm" a rather weak motivation.

Kev: -1 (presence of an optional attribute with no default in case it's missing is enough)
Dave: [on-list]
Sam: [on-list] (leaning towards -1; need to reread 0059 first)
Daniel: [on-list]
Georg: [on-list]

5) Stagnant Votes
Dave thinks some of his votes may have expired, and has no idea what else might be outstanding.
Kev stills owes one for HTTP Upload, which may have expired now, but thinks there is still unaddressed feedback to be discussed.
Dave commits to updating the Spreadsheet of Doom over the next couple of days.

6) AOB
Dave apologises for his extended absence, blaming a less than lucrative career move as a self-employed accountant, and commits to being more around from now on.

7) Next Meeting
2018-07-18 1500 UTC; Dave will be on a train.

8) Close
Thank all. Thank all. Thank all.


PR #672 discussion continues...

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