[Standards] Should we move Nicks out of MIX-CORE?

Steve Kille steve.kille at isode.com
Tue Jun 5 10:11:06 UTC 2018



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Standards <standards-bounces at xmpp.org> On Behalf Of Kevin Smith
> Sent: 05 June 2018 09:26
> To: XMPP Standards <standards at xmpp.org>
> Subject: Re: [Standards] Should we move Nicks out of MIX-CORE?
> 
> On 4 Jun 2018, at 20:18, Steve Kille <steve.kille at isode.com> wrote:
> > From: Standards <standards-bounces at xmpp.org> On Behalf Of Dave
> > Cridland
> 
> >> Sent: 04 June 2018 20:06
> >> To: XMPP Standards <standards at xmpp.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Standards] Should we move Nicks out of MIX-CORE?
> >>
> >> Nicknames are what users use to refer to each other. If, in a channel, I say,
> "Steve, that's a terrible idea!", then I'm referring to the user whose nickname is
> Steve in the channel.
> >>
> >> If we say clients should name channel occupants by any name they like, this
> won't work. We'll then have to handle things by references - a better idea,
> certainly, and one that solves the question of who I'm talking to.
> >>
> >> But then in the text, you'd still see what name I use to refer to you as...
> >>
> >> Now, as it happens, you're simply Steve Kille in my roster - hooray for posting
> on good terms, eh? - but what if I'd got a silly name for you? Or misspelled your
> name? Autocorrect really hates it, after all.
> >>
> >> These aren't technical interoperability, but they do harm to user experience
> and might even be a privacy leak.
> > [Steve Kille]
> >
> > I think that this ties back to the case that Daniel was making to move Nicks out
> of core.
> >
> > JIDs are the global reference.
> >
> > I think you are making a good case for a MIX client using channel nicks in the
> UI.
> >
> > However,  I don’t think that MIX should mandate what the UI displays.   MIX
> has potential to be used for many things, and there may well be other cases
> where this choice is not sensible
> 
> MIX doesn’t need to be MUST it, but guidance here seems appropriate, or at
> least not implying that it’s completely optional.
> 
> /K

[Steve Kille] 

Guidance added


Steve



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