[Standards] Disappearing timers for OMEMO proposal

Jonas Wielicki jonas at wielicki.name
Sun May 13 14:29:09 UTC 2018

On Sonntag, 13. Mai 2018 15:37:18 CEST Alexander Krotov wrote:
> On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 12:40:40PM +0200, Jonas Wielicki wrote:
> > On Sonntag, 13. Mai 2018 00:07:32 CEST Alexander Krotov wrote:
> > > For unencrypted timed messages we need to require hinting the server
> > > not to store the message, by the way.
> > 
> > You do realize that this will make the user not see the message, at all,
> > ever, if their only clients supporting Timers aren’t online at the time
> > the message is sent?
> Well, it should be <no-permanent-store/>, not <no-store/>:
> https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0334.html#no-permanent-store

Yes, no-permanent-store excludes MAM. And MAM-enabled clients won’t fetch 
Offline Messages because they can’t sync them with MAM. (And Offline Messages 
don’t help when there is another non-timer client online.)

kind regards,
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