[Standards] Council Minutes 2019-12-18

Tedd Sterr teddsterr at outlook.com
Tue Dec 24 15:00:07 UTC 2019


1) Roll Call
Present: Jonas, Kev, Zash, Dave, Daniel

2) Agenda Bashing
Jonas notes one ProtoXEP, and asks for anything else - nothing is forthcoming.

3) Proposed XMPP Extension: Character counting in message bodies - https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/charcount.html
Jonas: +1
Zash: +1
Daniel: +1
Dave: +1
Georg: [on-list]

4) Outstanding Votes
Jonas notes Georg's vote on Charcount, and the outstanding votes on Reactions (which expires today.)
Zash votes on Reactions: +0 (seems to be moving now so I don't object)

Dave has a report on Reactions and Fastenings for AOB - Jonas suggests giving it now in case it influences outstanding votes.
Kev and Dave have been working through the feedback and trying to get Fastenings and MAM to play nicely together, and still have some compatibility with full stanza encryption; believe they have something implementable.
Kev is currently updating Fastening, and wonders whether anyone minds if he makes changes without bumping, given that nobody is actually using it yet - Jonas says it's Experimental, so go ahead.
Jonas is looking forward to reading this proposal; doesn't think there's much else to discuss on this until that's available.

Jonas checks whether anyone wants to update their votes on Reactions - Dave is currently vetoing. Georg votes -1, as he agrees with Dave's reasoning that resubmitting for a new Council is formally problematic, also because there is movement on Fastening. Jonas similarly changes his vote to -1, but will consider a resubmission if and only if Fastening isn't turning out to be useful. Zash says "this is fine." Daniel agrees with the decision to veto, but isn't going to change his vote.

Kev is trying to maintain momentum, and would like to be chased if that appears to stop.
Reactions' author is fine with the veto in that it at least brought movement in the Fastening discussion - Kev reiterates his offer of updating Reactions once Fastening has stabilised. Dave is glad all of this is seeing progress.

5) Date of Next
Jonas doesn't expect it makes sense to have a meeting on the 25th (Christmas Day); the following Wednesday would be January 1st, so the 2nd is preferred.

2020-01-02 1600 UTC

6) Any other Business
Jonas notes that the Character Counting vote will expire before the next meeting.

Georg mentions that MattJ and himself have been implementing XEP-0401 (Easy User Onboarding), with some small deviations; thanks Zash for creating the foundation for it.

7) Close
Everyone thanks everyone.

Jonas specifically thanks Kev and Dave for putting in effort on Fastening, and Larma for their patience, and Georg and MattJ for their work on XEP-0401.

Guten Rutsch ins Neue Jahr!

Jonas has live-updated the Spreadsheet of Doom: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ANu9KGmNf2r-qpLYqF7NdJTtqA1GIu55rf2deKbM0GA

Georg nudges Zash to finalise his vote on Reactions - Zash changes his vote to -1 (agree with Jonas; glad it's moving forward).

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