[Standards] XEP-0191 leads to stale presence?

Philipp Hörist philipp at hoerist.com
Fri Jun 21 21:10:52 UTC 2019

I think you misunderstood what Kim meant.

Its about unblocking, so you are obviously again interested in presence,
the XEP does not mention the client or server should send a probe because
the presence is stale


Am Fr., 21. Juni 2019 um 22:57 Uhr schrieb Tedd Sterr <teddsterr at outlook.com

> If you block a contact, presumably that means you don't want them to see
> your presence and you're not interested in theirs.
> In that case, presence going stale is unimportant (shouldn't be shown
> anyway?), and any kind of probes would be considered a leak.
> There may be a small case for still viewing their presence for spying
> purposes, but I'm not sure it's worth the extra complication.
> [Possibly worth contrasting with XEP-0186 (Invisible Command) where you
> would still want to view presence.]
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