[Standards] Council Minutes 2019-10-16

Tedd Sterr teddsterr at outlook.com
Wed Oct 23 14:18:50 UTC 2019


http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2019-10-16?p=h#2019-10-16-19ada475330fcce4

Georg appears to be here, as do Link, Jonas, and Kev.
Kev thinks the only thing for today is the CS-2020 Last Call; Georg points out the vote on Message Moderation, which expires today.

Kev attempts to get the voting in motion; Georg requests making the meeting structure more formal.
There is an informal commotion.

Jonas takes the opportunity to seize The Chair.

1) Roll Call
Here: Kev, Link, Jonas, Georg
Elsewhere: Dave

2) Agenda Bashing
Jonas notes the LC for CS-2020; Georg adds the upcoming DST change as AOB.

3a) Last Call: XEP-0423 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2020) - https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0423.html
Kev: +1
Link: +1
Jonas: +1
Georg: +1
Dave: [pending]

3b) Advance to Draft: XEP-0292 (vCard4 Over XMPP) - https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0292.html
Pep notes this has been Proposed since February - Jonas thinks it only had a single bit of feedback, which was mostly "this looks good" - Zash notes that there was discussion prior to the LC, but is unsure whether it lead to changes.

Georg: [on-list]
Jonas: [on-list]
Link: [on-list] (will have to gather data about what has been done and what should be done)
Kev: [on-list] (feels like we've done this already)
Dave: [pending]

4) Date of Next
2019-10-23 1500 UTC

Kev won't be able to make it.

5a) AOB i
DST change (EU: Oct 27th; US: Nov 3rd)
Kev suggests SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) that Council is pinned to European DST.
Jonas notes that Council members are in UK, France, and Germany, all of which are subject to EU DST - so the meeting time will be moved to 1600 UTC, starting October 30th.

5b) AOB ii
Link asks Council not to formalise formalism for the sake of formally formalising formal formalism for formalism's sake - Georg apologises.
Jonas doesn't have a strong opinion, but felt it was the easiest way to break out of the meta discussion earlier. Link just felt that things had already started.
Kev was trying to the meeting done quickly to have time to review CS-2020.
Jonas apologises for stealing the chair.

6) Eaty Meaty East
Thanks all.

Georg wanted to vote on Message Moderation - Link notes he can still do so on-list, and will do the same.
Everyone debates what "close of business" actually means.

WRT 3b, Zash notes https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2019-January/035714.html

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