[Standards] Council Voting Summary 2019-08-06

Kevin Smith kevin.smith at isode.com
Fri Sep 6 10:08:53 UTC 2019


On 29 Aug 2019, at 10:05, Dave Cridland <dave at cridland.net> wrote:
> Can I persuade you to work on this on the road to Draft, rather than leaving a ProtoXEP addressing a problem I think we all want to solve languishing in limbo?

I’ve instead submitted a fastening protoXEP that Reactions can use to allay my concerns. If that is published, I’m amenable to accepting reactions as-is and immediately updating it to use fastening (providing we agreed that me doing so was appropriate), or for the authors to update pre-publish.

/K

> 
> Dave.
> 
> On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 09:22, Kevin Smith <kevin.smith at isode.com <mailto:kevin.smith at isode.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> > On 29 Aug 2019, at 09:19, Daniel Gultsch <daniel at gultsch.de <mailto:daniel at gultsch.de>> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Am Mi., 7. Aug. 2019 um 16:18 Uhr schrieb Tedd Sterr <teddsterr at outlook.com <mailto:teddsterr at outlook.com>>:
> > 
> >> VETOED (-1:0:+4)
> >> Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Reactions - https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/reactions.html <https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/reactions.html>
> >> Dave: +1 (enthusiastic about the problem space, but expect this will need a lot of changes on the way to Draft)
> >> Georg: +1 (it is good enough for Experimental)
> >> Jonas: +1 (details can be ironed out)
> >> Kev: -1 (we need a general way of referencing a previous message for assorted things and to use that everywhere, while the reactions syntax is not reusable)
> >> Link: +1 (issues can be ironed out before Draft)
> > 
> > 
> > just a quick 'imho' from my point of view here.
> > I get where this veto is coming from. We discussed the need to
> > collapse meta data around a message within the archive and I totally
> > agree that long term we need to solve this.
> > However I find it unfair to put the burden of figuring out a solution
> > to a very complex problem upon a single XEP (or its authors). 
> 
> Which is why I offered to the authors to fix this now so the XEP could be accepted, as I had some spare cycles at the time, but that offer wasn’t taken up. I very much want a reactions XEP published, and was willing to put the time in to make it happen.
> 
> /K
> 
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